Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE | Lex Fridman Podcast #462

Ezra Klein is one of the most influential voices representing the left-wing of American politics. He is a columnist for the NY Times and host of The Ezra Klein Show. Derek Thompson is a writer at The Atlantic and host of the Plain English podcast. Together they have written a new book titled Abundance that lays out a set of ideas for the future of the Democratic party. Thank you for listening ❤ Check out our sponsors: https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep462-sb See below for timestamps, transcript, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc. Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/ezra-klein-and... CONTACT LEX: Feedback - give feedback to Lex: https://lexfridman.com/survey AMA - submit questions, videos or call-in: https://lexfridman.com/ama Hiring - join our team: https://lexfridman.com/hiring Other - other ways to get in touch: https://lexfridman.com/contact EPISODE LINKS: Abundance (new book): https://amzn.to/4iZ1S8J Ezra's X: https://x.com/ezraklein/ Ezra's Instagram: / ezraklein Ezra's YouTube: / ezrakleinshow The New York Times: https://nytimes.com/by/ezra-klein Derek's X: https://x.com/dkthomp Plain English (podcast): https://www.theringer.com/podcasts/pl... The Atlantic: https://theatlantic.com/author/derek-... SPONSORS: To support this podcast, check out our sponsors & get discounts: Call of Duty: First-person shooter video game. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/call_of_duty... LMNT: Zero-sugar electrolyte drink mix. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/lmnt-ep462-sb AG1: All-in-one daily nutrition drinks. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/ag1-ep462-sb Shopify: Sell stuff online. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/shopify-ep46... OUTLINE: 0:00 - Episode highlight 3:08 - Introduction 6:37 - Left-wing vs right-wing politics 15:58 - Political leaders on the left and the right 40:34 - Internal political divisions 43:34 - AOC 54:54 - Political realignment 1:06:37 - Supply-side progressivism 1:13:47 - Wealth redistribution 1:23:54 - Housing problem 1:40:13 - Regulation and deregulation 1:56:47 - DOGE, Elon, and Trump 2:55:50 - Sam Harris 3:05:28 - Future of America PODCAST LINKS: Podcast Website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ Podcast Playlist: • Lex Fridman Podcast Clips Channel: / lexclips SOCIAL LINKS: X: https://x.com/lexfridman Instagram: / lexfridman TikTok: / lexfridman LinkedIn: / lexfridman Facebook: / lexfridman Patreon: / lexfridman Telegram: https://t.me/lexfridman Reddit: / lexfridman